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Floor Has A Hump

Dear HammerZone,

I'm remodeling my kitchen and family room. I'm replacing the carpeting with laminated flooring.

When I took the furniture out of the family room, and pulled up the carpeting and pad, I discovered I had a "hump" running across the room, in the same direction as the joists under the sub-floor. Measuring with a 4 ft level, I narrowed the problem down to a single joist (approx 12 ft long) that appeared to be bowed upwards almost 1" in the middle. 

When the room was carpeted, that kind of hump didn't make much difference, since it was fairly near the end of the room. But I really think it will be noticeable when I put down the laminated floor.

What would you do? 

I loved your dissertation on "jacking up" a floor ... can I "jack down" this joist?

Thanks for your help! 

T. R. Berta

 


I was in a shoe store recently and I saw the solution to your problem. That is really weird because it was two weeks before you asked your question.

Seriously. I was in Rockford Michigan, near Grand Rapids, at an outlet store for Wolverine World Wide, which makes numerous brands of shoes and boots such as Hush Puppies. While my girlfriend browsed for shoes, I stood around and my mind wandered to more interesting things such as the structure of the building. The store is housed in an old factory, dating back to perhaps the late 1800's. 

And I was a little surprised to see that all of the floor joists above were "discontinuous", that is, they had been spliced in the middle of the span.

The joists in question were huge, about 4x12, which was typical for factory buildings of that era. And the joists spanned about 20 feet from one wall to a beam in the center of the room, and kept going for another 10 feet. The remaining 10 feet of span was accomplished with ANOTHER piece of 4x12. 

This type of construction is not very common, but it can be done. They had joined the two sections of joist with 2x10 "scabs" about 4 feet long, on each side of the joist. The scabs were clamped together with four large bolts and washers, which is the key to making these splices work.

It was weird though, seeing a whole row of joists that were spliced together. I've seen a few odd splices done for repairs, but this structure must have been built this way.


If I was faced with a problem of a joist bowing upwards, my approach would be to "Slice and Splice".

1. I would first verify the amount and location of maximum bow. I would use a length of string to create a perfectly straight reference line next to the top of the joist. I would secure one end of the string to the underside of the floor, just a fraction of an inch from the joist. The other end must he pulled very tight and held or secured to the floor. Then I would be able to measure the exact amount of error and the location of the worst deviation. It might be necessary to remove blocking or bridging to create a clear work area.

2. I would cut right through the joist, severing it into two pieces. The joist could be replaced with two sections of new wood, but that is a lot of hassle. My approach would be to let the cut joist sag a bit (I might prop the ends up from below with 2x4's) until the floor above is flat and level. 

3. Then I would splice the joist with an 8 foot long piece of lumber (the same size as the original joist) on EACH SIDE of the joist. The key to success is using the right fasteners. First I would nail the splices in place with a dozen (or more) 16d nails. Then I would install at least 3 large bolts on EACH SIDE of the splice, to clamp the wood tightly. These bolts should be at least 5/16" diameter (and whatever length that will leave some thread sticking out at the end, perhaps 5 or 6 inches long) and they also need to have very large diameter washers (such as washers for 3/4" bolts) under the bolt and nut to prevent crushing of the wood fibers. There also needs to be a lock washer under the nut.

This article shows what I mean about washer size.

Some Relevant Photos:

These connectors are actually pieces of 3/8"  threaded rod. These are joining floor joists together, but the connection is supported by a lally column because there is not enough wood available for adequate overlap.

 

This closer view shows the washers... a large flat washer, a 3/8" flat washer, and a lock washer.

The Opposite: Raising A Joist

I installed this bracing in the attic to support a ceiling joist that had sagged. The vertical post on the right is the location of the sag, the rest of the wood is just  to provide additional stiffening.

To raise the joist I simply made a "T"-shaped post from an 8-foot 2x4 and a scrap of wood, and placed it under the joist.

The trick is to make a post a fraction of an inch longer than the proper ceiling height. Then the ceiling can be raised slightly by hammering the post more towards vertical, and lowered by making the post less vertical. 

I suppose this type of apparatus could be used to pull a joist downward.

 

Bruce W. Maki, Editor.

 

 

 

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