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Laminate Flooring Over Carpet?

In my 2-storey home, there's a "bonus" room atop the attached garage. I want to put in laminate, but I'm worried about the floor being colder in the winter (the garage is not heated and I live in Canada!). 

I wonder if I could put in the laminate on top of the existing carpet? It was formerly a medium pile carpet, but has been worn really badly and is now quite thin. It doesn't feel like there's much underlay left. Do you think the laminate could go on top of the carpet? If so, would I still need a foam underlay? 

Thanks for your help. 
Elizabeth


I can't say for certain that it wouldn't work, but laying any flooring material over carpet sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Most flooring materials need a firm, or solid, base. While it is true that laminate can be installed as a "floating" floor over a thin layer of approved foam sheet, installing laminate over any else would almost certainly void whatever warranty the flooring had.

With such man-made materials the only thing to do is follow the manufacturers instructions or recommendations.

If you want more insulation in the floor, there are many reasonable ways to obtain that while working from below. The garage below must already have some sort of drywall for a fire barrier. That barrier must be kept. You can add foam insulation to the ceiling and then install more drywall over the foam. Just make sure drywall screws are used that are long enough to penetrate at least one inch (25 mm) into the floor joists above.

But... you might just go ahead and rip out the carpet, install the laminate, and see how things go. My experience is that heat loss through the floor is often negligible, since warm air tends to rise, the ceiling insulation in that bonus room is the most important element. You might consider adding insulation to the walls in the garage, if the walls are not already covered with drywall. If the garage door leaks a lot of air, you may be able to replace the weatherstrip on the bottom and reduce the drafts. Also, make sure any other windows or doors in the garage have adequate weatherstripping to keep out drafts.

But I believe that insulating the garage ceiling is your best bet. You would only get an R-value of maybe 2 or 3 from the old carpet anyway. You can add 3/4 inch (19mm) thick polyisocyanurate foam and get R5.6 or so. If you place the foam over furring strips to create an air space, the R-value goes up to around 7.

If an increased thickness in the floor does not interfere with any doors, it may be possible to try this: Lay down a layer of 1/2" or 3/4" isocyanurate foam on the old floor (carpet removed), and then apply a layer of plywood or OSB, and then lay the laminate flooring. But... I would first talk to a technical rep for the flooring manufacturer as well as the foam insulation maker. Some foams are strong enough to walk on, IF there is adequate sheet material above to distribute the load.

Certainly one method that would work is to lay down furring strips (such as 1x3's) and lay 3/4" foam between the strips. Then apply a proper layer of plywood/OSB on that. The only question here is: what is the proper thickness of plywood or OSB. 7/16" OSB can easily span 16 inches when used for roof sheathing, but that will give some springyness. But... your floor has some serious support between these furring strips... the foam and the original sub-floor, so the roof comparison doesn't really hold. 1/2" OSB is better still, and not too expensive. That way the weight on the foam will be minimal. What I'm afraid of is this: the foam and the furring strips are slightly different thicknesses, and the OSB sheathing layer has a little bounce to it, which you might feel in the finished floor. This is probably a very unlikely scenario... but I like to be cautious, so I would use the thickest OSB I could afford, but no more than 3/4".

Ask your local building material suppliers for some specific information about the crush resistance of isocyanurate foam.

 

Bruce W. Maki, Editor.

 

 

 

 

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