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Floor Insulation For A Tiny Crawl Space

My house, in southwest Washington state was built in 1959. It has 2x8 non-tongue and groove sub-floors, and oak tongue and groove plank flooring. After I removed the carpet from one room, I found the hardwood so surface damaged that I really needed to pull it up and surface plane it and refinish it. This process is going well. Here comes the problem, and the question. When I pulled up the first planks of oak, I saw sunlight reflected off the lawn right outside a foundation vent. There was no insulation. The space under the house is inaccessible because there isn't enough space to get under it. 

Is there an insulating material that I could put *on top of* the sub-floor? I plan on laying an extra sub-floor on top of the existing one, and putting in a hydronic radiant floor.

Jim


It makes me wonder what was going on during those glorious 50's. My girlfriend's "other" house was built in 1958, and it also has a micro-miniature crawl space... only a rat could crawl through it. It makes everything difficult.

Most truly effective insulation materials need more thickness than you could possibly give up. Polyisocyanurate (such as Celotex rigid insulation board) is about the best... you can get an R-value of 3 or 4 in just 1/2" of thickness. But... I don't know if you can walk on it, even with the weight-distributing effects of a 3/4" plank floor above it. There are 6 inch thick foam roofing panels that can be walked on... so somewhere there is an answer.

Some floors are laid over a thin sheet of polyethylene foam, but this has minimal R-value.

For hydronic heating below hardwood floors, there are many companies that offer products. Look in Fine Homebuilding (available at most bookstores) for some companies that sell these products. The deal is tricky because your nails have to miss the plastic tubing that is laid in slots in the sub-floor.

Other thoughts:

Can you excavate some of that mini-crawlspace? If so, there are heating products that fasten to the underside of the sub-floor. I have a plumber friend who did this in his new house recently, it works great. It's just a radiator-like device (he called it "fin-tube") that transfers it's heat to the wood floor above. It's all copper pipe and aluminum fins, and is installed like any other copper plumbing.

If you dared to excavate, you could insulate around the perimeter walls? 

From my experience and education (including a semester course in heat transfer) there is minimal heat loss through the floor in most wood-framed structures. But the floor will still be cold. I have seen a lot of houses here in frigid Northern Michigan (common winter temperature: -20) that have non-insulated crawl spaces... and they are just fine, but they do waste some heat. Closing the vents in winter is a good idea to keep pipes from freezing.

 

Bruce W. Maki, Editor.

 

 

 

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