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Sagging Entry Doors

My house is approximately 3 years old and is located in Kansas. 

I have 3 exterior doors that have started to sag at the top of the doors (the doors sag from the hinges down towards the door knob). The doors don't open or close properly and there are gaps around the doors. While inspecting the doors, I noticed that some of the screws in the top hinges were stripped. I removed these screws and noticed that they were only approximately 1/2 inch long. Therefore I replaced all the screws of the top hinges with 2 inch galvanized screws. While installing the longer screws, I heard the wood framing behind the door jam split. ( I must not have pre-drilled the holes with a big enough drill bit). Now I'm unsure on how to proceed. 

Of the 3 doors with problems, one turned out good, one is just okay and one still does not operate properly. I'm assuming that the framing behind the door jamb will need to replaced along with the door jambs since I probably split it, or it's at least stripped now. Any thoughts?


Brad R.


Isn't it ridiculous how short those screws are? Some entry doors come with longer screws that are meant to be driven into the framing.

You are experiencing a common problem. The solution is pretty much what you did... drive some longer screws through the top hinge and into the framing.

Just because you heard splitting sounds does not mean that you split the framing. You may have only split some shims behind the hinge. And since all door openings are normally framed with doubled-up studs, it's very unlikely that any splitting you may have caused to the studs could have any significant structural effect.

If you could see the amount of splitting of lumber I've seen on old houses, you'd never give a moment's thought to the splitting sound you heard. I've seen houses where almost every stud, joist, rafter, and sheathing board was split in multiple locations, yet the houses still stand. But they do creak a bit when the wind blows hard!

I can't imagine it being necessary to replace any framing lumber around your doors.

Since the framing should be 3" thick, plus the gap between the framing and the jamb, plus the standard 5/8" jamb thickness, you could use screws up to 4" long for your repair. I would suggest using at least 3" deck screws, such as Deck Mate brand, which are much tougher than most deck screws. Most carpenters do not pre-drill the holes when installing doors that use extra-long screws on the top hinge. But... it helps to pre-drill, especially after the lumber dries out and becomes more brittle.

Also, what I've done is drive deck screws through the jamb near the top hinge. This requires pre-drilling at least the jamb portion, and counter-sinking the screw heads.

It's very easy to over-do this and make the striker side of the door lift up. So drive in a screw, check the door, then tighten or loosen the screw and see what happens. Once you get a single screw with a good bite into the framing, it alone usually can control the door sag. Remember that the screws farthest from the hinge pin will be less likely to cause splitting, because they will be closer to the center of the stud.

Also, Phillips drive screws tend to slip in this type of high-torque job. I often purchase "square drive" deck screws, which are also called Robertson drive screws in some parts of the world, namely Canada.


You are very much on the right track.

 

Bruce W. Maki, Editor.

 

 

 

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