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Using Deck Screws With Joist Hangers

I have a question regarding the use of joist hangers. I'm wanting to use a hanger ( model LUS28 made by Simpson/Strong-Tie) to tie 2x6 joists on 16" centers with a 6' span to a 2x8 ledger and a 2x10 rim joist. The box for the hangers says to use a standard 10D common nail in every hole. 

I would like to know if you know if I can use the following screws instead of the nails? THE SCREWS ARE: Deck-Mate, Phillips Square-Drive screws (#8x2.5") manufactured by Phillips fastener products. My building inspector says that I can't use these screws unless I can find a shear rating on them that is equal to the recommended fasteners. I've been unable to locate anyone that can give me any information about these screws. If you could help me that would be great.

Thank you,
Ron 


I've been wondering the exact same thing... how to find the shear rating on screws.

That is an important issue with building inspectors, and I'm not sure there is much supporting science behind it. A 10d nail definitely has more cross-sectional area (and hence more shear strength) than a number 8 screw. But nails are much more invasive than screws and cause much more splitting. And screws have perhaps 5 to 10 times the resistance to pull-out forces, and screws are much less likely to loosen over time as wind makes the structure move back and forth (racking).

But they apply the codes, the codes are based on popular practices, and you can't argue with these guys unless you have the proven data.

I'll point out that I have NEVER seen a screw fail in shear, or a nail for that matter. Their code requirements probably result in over-building by a factor of 2, or 4 or 5. But that's overbuilding in only one aspect of construction. I have seen structures fail from nails pulling out or wood splitting.

The manufacturer of those screws should have this info. I haven't had time to chase them down. Home Depot should have access to this info, since they promote those screws so much.

 

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