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Installing A Glass Shower Enclosure
Over Ceramic Tile?

Question:

I live in Michigan, house is now 3 yrs old - I removed a pantry and inside wall, to open up the first floor bathroom, I would like to put a shower in there, the space is approx. 28" wide, [but its all open so I can go farther out into the vanity and door area] by 55" long. [the entire bath is like 4 1/2 ft by 9 ft] ok my question is:

Can I install the Durock, then the shower base, then the plumbing, then the glass doors, AND THEN CERAMIC OR PORCELAIN TILES INSTEAD OF THE SHOWER WALL SURROUND??

Thomas

 

Reply:

As far as I know, you can substitute cement tile backer (such as Durock®) and tile for drywall and tub surround.

One question I have is: Are you planning on leaving all (or most) of the drywall intact?

I suppose you could leave the drywall in place, put Durock on the floor and then install the shower base. Then you would need to install Durock on the walls (over the existing drywall) and make sure the cement board overhangs the flange of the shower base. This prevents water from getting behind the base.

Then you could apply any type of wall tile... but there is still the issue of what to do at the edge of the Durock cement board. Normally there are special edge tiles used for a junction between tile and drywall, but I can't say I've seen any that would conceal the edge of 1/2" thick Durock.

The more customary method of construction (I think) would be to cut away the drywall around the shower and install the Durock flush with the drywall. But... you need to provide adequate backing for the edges of the drywall and cement board. I would prefer to install full 2x4 studs or blocking to provide a good nailing surface for the entire perimeter of the Durock and the cut edges of the drywall.

With only part of the drywall removed, it might be complicated to maneuver any pieces of blocking behind the edges of the wallboard. You really need to provide good backing around these edges... without proper backing the drywall edges are very weak. If the Durock flexes much, the wall tiles may fall off someday. And the joint between the two surfaces will be difficult to fill and keep sealed.

Consequently, applying Durock OVER the existing drywall is an appealing approach, but only if the edge can be concealed without a lot of trouble.

The glass shower panels I've seen need to be installed AFTER the wall treatment is done, whether it is tile or plastic shower surround material. The glass shower wall panels are attached to the walls with screws and anchors, and the panel-to-wall junction is caulked with silicone or equivalent.

Bruce W. Maki, Editor.

 

 

 

 

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